Dale Carnegie Course Review – Wrap Up

by Eric on January 14, 2009

I first read How to Win Friends and Influence People in 1996.  I did all the stuff it said, made a lot of friends, got along better with people, etc. etc.  But after a while I began to get tired.  It was taking too much energy to be positive all the time.  I got tired of remembering names.  I couldn’t always think of sincere compliments.  I decided that maybe this Carnegie stuff wasn’t for me.

Later I learned that several people whom I admire recommend the Carnegie course.  (If you read the latest Warren Buffet bio, he actually performed an empirical evaluation of the techniques, complete with statistical analysis of his results.)  I decided to give it another chance.  But this time I’d keep in mind something I learned from Stephen Covey: the difference in techniques and principles.

In The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People, Covey points out that much of the modern self help literature focuses on techniques.  Say this, write that, go there, watch those, dress this way, etc.  The problem is that techniques can only help so much.  Real permament change must be grounded in principles.

My problem before was that I was treating the Carnegie material as techniques instead of principles.  I was trying to do those things instead of being the kind of person for whom those things come naturally.  As my enthusiasm waned, I burned out.

The Carnegie course is like anything else – what you get out depends on what you put in.  If you attend and then forget about it, it won’t help you.  If you attend, study the material, commit to it, and work on it, who knows where you can go.  This time I’m determined to practice this until it sticks.  Not until I’m good at it, or it’s easy, or fun, or I’m tired of it.  I’m working at it until it becomes my nature.

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{ 9 comments… read them below or add one }

Jann Freed January 19, 2009 at 8:44 pm

My son just completed the program and I am a big fan. It was not inexpensive and we paid for it as parents, but we think it was a great investment for his future and he does also. Thanks. Keep it up.

Ray Land March 24, 2009 at 10:31 pm

Great site Eric!

I am currently in the Dale Carnegie Course and had too read the books before taking the class. I am sold on the principles being magical. There isn’t a doubt they have changed my life, the way I handle people, the way I think. Just thought I’d tell you that your site is great and you seem to my on an awesome track to being connecting with yourself (good golly, that’s awesome!)

Have a great week!

RAY

David Pesante January 7, 2010 at 9:29 pm

Couple of questions… which courses do you guys recommend for myself (47 VP of Product Management) and my son (13)…

Eric January 8, 2010 at 9:52 am

Hey David.
The Carnegie program also offers a course on public speaking. That is the one I’d really like to do next. I hear lots of good things about it (maybe more than the famous Carnegie course).
As for your son, I don’t know what to recommend. Certainly reading How to Win Friends would be good.

Tom January 11, 2010 at 3:07 pm

Hi Eric,
thanks for the review, very helpful since I was considering taking the course. Sounds like on a scale from 1 to 10 it’s around 7… would you take it again?
Tom.

Eric January 11, 2010 at 6:46 pm

Hey Tom.
I would do it again. It depends a lot on your classmates. The better they are, and the more they’re into it, the better the class will be.

Martina January 13, 2010 at 11:36 am

Hi Eric,

great site. Thanks for your thoughts. I agree that the classmates would make a difference to the experience of the class. Do you have thoughts on how to find out or evaluate that before the class? Cheers, Martina

Eric January 13, 2010 at 1:16 pm

Hi Martina.
I don’t know of any way to check out your classmates ahead of time. But you might consider recruiting people you know to attend. If you know people interested in learning and getting better, you could encourage them to attend with you.

Jordan September 12, 2010 at 8:56 am

Great website – great comments.

I’m taking this course through work as part of an ongoing training process to eventually assume a sales director position within the organisation I work for.

I’ve taken different training courses and I guess what you take home with you, as Eric said, depends on what you put into the course.

There is also the CPSA organisation that offers lots of courses focused on managerial techniques, sales techniques, public speaking and such… I’ve taken courses through them and they’ve helped for sure.

In order for any of these courses to be really beneficial though, it must be part of your life and not just a ”text book” facade.

I’m looking forward to start the Dale Carnegie courses and hopefully, I will walk away from it a better person!

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